====== Practical problems with Atheneus' names ====== See also: [[z:ath-ox|Athenaeus in oXygen --- examples and exercises]] ===== Names which are not really names ===== * Placeholders for names such as "alpha" and "beta" * Nicknames which are part of a person's name, interspersed with articles: ἈρτεμίδωροςΨευδαριστοφάνειος παρίστατο Παλλὰς Ἀθήνη * Name + ethnic + name of work: τοῦ Φιλοξένου δὲ τοῦ Λευκαδίου Δείπνου * Referring to a person by a description + name combination: ==== A search for κωμῳδιο- done in whole document ==== ὁ κωμῳδιοποιὸς Εὔπολίς Πολυκράτην τε τὸν Σάμιον καὶ Πεισίστρατον τὸν Ἀθηναίων τυραννήσαντα κατὰ γὰρ τὸν κωμῳδιοποιὸν Ἀπολλόδωρον:: εἰς οἰκίαν ὅταν τις εἰσίῃ φίλου (NB an unmarked quotation) τὸ ὕδωρ ποταμοῦ σῶμά φησί που Εὔβουλος ὁ κωμῳδιοποιὸς εἰρηκέναι Χαιρήμονα τὸν τραγικὸν (NB incorrect markup)

Ἐπικράτης ὁ κωμῳδιοποιός: τί Πλάτων καὶ Σπεύσιππος καὶ Μενέδημος; πρὸς τίσι νυνὶ διατρίβουσιν; (NB incorrect markup?) πολλοὶ μὲν μέμνηνται τῶν κωμῳδιοποιῶν ἀτὰρ καὶ Φερεκράτης ἐν Κραπατάλλοις (implicit identification by occupation + name of work) ὡς καὶ Πλάτων ὁ κωμῳδιοποιός φησιν ἐν Κλεοφῶντι (person name = name of work) τοῦ παρὰ Δαμοξένῳ τῷ κωμῳδιοποιῷ μαγείρου, ὅς ἐν Συντρόφοις φησιν (person referred to by occupation + name of work = noclass) Ἄλεξις μὲν οὖν αὐτὸν ἐν Δορκίδι ἢ Ποππυζούσῃ φίλιχθυν εἶναι κοινῶς παραδίδωσι καθάπερ καὶ ἄλλοι τῶν κωμῳδιοποιῶν, λέγων οὕτως: (implicit identification of Alexis as a comediographer; name of work + an unmarked name of work) καὶ Κρώβυλος ὁ κωμῳδιοποιὸς αἰσχυνόμενον εἶπε τὸ τοιοῦτο ἧπαρ ὥσπερ καὶ, ἐν Ψευδυποβολιμαίῳ λέγων οὕτως: (name of author near name of work = noclass) καὶ Θουκυδίδης ἐν ζ᾽ καὶ Δημήτριος ὁ κωμῳδιοποιὸς ἐν τῷ ἐπιγραφομένῳ δράματι Σικελία διὰ τούτων: (name of work incorrectly marked, i. e. two names at once; NB referring to Thucydides' book by number) Πλάτων δ᾽ ὁ κωμῳδιοποιὸς ἐν Νυκτὶ (name of work incorrectly marked) καὶ τὸ παρὰ Κράτητι τῷ κωμῳδιοποιῷ ἐν Σαμίοις (name of work incorrectly marked) καὶ Ἀντιφάνης ὁ κωμῳδιοποιὸς ἐν ΟἰνομάῳΠέλοπι διαπαίζων ἔφη: (name of work incorrectly marked) καὶ ὁ κωμῳδιοποιὸς Πλάτων ἐν τῷ Φάωνι ἐμνήσθη καὶ μὴ τοῦ Λευκαδίου Φιλοξένου—τοιαύτην ἐκτίθεται παρασκευὴν δείπνου (NB unidentified personal name) ὁ δὲ κωμῳδιοποιὸς Ποσείδιππος ἐν Πορνοβοσκῷ φησιν (name of work = noclass) ἐγὼ δ᾽ ὁ τάλας κατὰ τὸν κωμῳδιοποιὸν Δίφιλον κεστρεὺς ἂν εἴην ἕνεκα νηστείας ἄκρας. (? an interesting situation, check in the edition) φησὶ Σώφιλος ὁ κωμῳδιοποιός ὦ ἄνδρες κύνες οἱ κατὰ τὴν Στράττιδος τοῦ κωμῳδιοποιοῦ Ἰοκάστην, ἥτις ἐν ταῖς ἐπιγραφομέναις Φοινίσσαις φησὶν (unidentified name, ethnic name = name of work) Φρύνιχος ὁ κωμῳδιοποιὸς ἐν τῷ Ἐφιάλτῃ μνημονεύει (name of a person = name of work) Κρίτων δ᾽ ὁ κωμῳδιοποιὸς ἐν Φιλοπράγμονι παρασίτους τοῦ θεοῦ καλεῖ τοὺς Δηλίους (name of work = noclass, a joking parasites' name "incorrectly" identified) Τιμοκλῆς ὁ κωμῳδιοποιὸς κατὰ πολλὰ χρησίμην εἶναι λέγων τῷ βίῳ τὴν τραγῳδίαν φησὶν ἐν Διονυσιαζούσαις (name of a comedy unmarked) Ἀριστοφάνης δὲ ὁ κωμῳδιοποιός, ὅν φησιν ἩλιόδωροςἈθηναῖος ἐν τοῖς περὶ ἀκροπόλεωσ—πεντεκαίδεκα δ᾽ ἐστὶ ταῦτα βιβλία Ναυκρατίτην εἶναι γένος, ἐν τῷ Πλούτῳ δράματι (name of a person = name of work; unidentified name of work "en tois peri akropoleos") παρὰ Κρωβύλῳ τῷ κωμικῷ ==== E. referring to unnamed works / parts of works ==== τὰ Πινδάρου ===== XPaths for interesting situations ===== //quote/quote (1028 results) //quote/quote/quote (157 results) //quote/quote/quote/quote (2 results) //name[@type[. eq "noclass"]] (2263 results) ===== Where to put the comments / argumentation ===== Is there space for comments / interpretations in Philologist? Is there space for discussion? ===== Athenaeus' edition could use a documented systematisation of name types ===== Curently: * person = 12424 * place = 2305 * noclass * ethnic = 3548 * group = 681 * title = 206 * month = 8 * festival = 20